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Post by ninworks on Mar 14, 2024 14:59:34 GMT -6
Hardware or UAD Plugin? I already have the plugin and like what it does. Just wondering if the hardware is enough better to justify filling up a rack space with one.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2024 15:20:37 GMT -6
Seriously doubt hw would be any better.
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Post by sean on Mar 14, 2024 16:19:49 GMT -6
I think the hardware is better at extreme settings…I don’t think the plugin is very good beyond a few dB up or down. With the hardware you can really change the size of how the room sounds, bigger or tighter. But the plugin gets the job done for sure.
I have the 4 channels Transient Designer and have been curious to try the TDX module for 500 series…
The nvelope hardware can really transform sounds…more tweaky while the TD is pretty instantly gratifying
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Post by ericn on Mar 14, 2024 16:54:32 GMT -6
I think the hardware is better at extreme settings…I don’t think the plugin is very good beyond a few dB up or down. With the hardware you can really change the size of how the room sounds, bigger or tighter. But the plugin gets the job done for sure. I have the 4 channels Transient Designer and have been curious to try the TDX module for 500 series… The nvelope hardware can really transform sounds…more tweaky while the TD is pretty instantly gratifying Yeah if your intent is to use it at extreme settings the hardware version all the way. |
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Post by recordingengineer on Mar 14, 2024 17:01:42 GMT -6
Which hardware unit for stereo drum room manipulation?
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Post by jampa on Mar 14, 2024 17:24:53 GMT -6
Ronan Chris Murphy did a video on this
Believe he sold his hardware as a result
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Post by smashlord on Mar 14, 2024 18:36:15 GMT -6
I have the 4 channel unit... I like it's sound over the software, especially for changing the decay of rooms mics, but TBH, I rarely patch into it. I have my HW set up so that I don't really have to change settings during mixing and obviously something like the TD doesn't really work with "set it and forget it" type settings. I usually end up using the plug.
If I had to sell something in the studio, it would probably be the first piece to go simply because its sonic benefits, IMO, don't outweigh using the plug in version for workflow and convenience.
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Post by sean on Mar 14, 2024 19:48:30 GMT -6
The nvelope, in my experience, is great for drum machines or synth pads where you need to change the attack of certain elements. You can dial in the frequency of the kick or the snare in the stereo drum machine and manipulate them independently. Same with an arpeggiated synth. It can also be handy when you only want to add decay to the low end of a drum or a certain frequency…or you have an overly resonant/boomy upright bass
The Transient Designer is more immediately gratifying. You can make a room mic sound larger or tighter or make a snare drum sound like it has a towel on it very easily.
Both very useful and honestly not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. I think I paid $600 for my 4 channel transient designer and $500 for my nvelope
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Post by ab101 on Mar 14, 2024 20:26:19 GMT -6
I have the hardware nvelope and I love it more than when I had the transient designer hardware. The hardware nvelope has somewhat better audio quality better than the software version, but the sofware version is still great.
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Post by recordingengineer on Mar 14, 2024 22:29:32 GMT -6
The Transient Designer is more immediately gratifying. You can make a room mic sound larger or tighter or make a snare drum sound like it has a towel on it very easily. Seems like Transient Designer is more for me… Now the question is original vs 500. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 14, 2024 23:05:37 GMT -6
Sony / Sonnox Oxford Transmod tbh. Not envolution. Transmod gets transients from nothing. It works. It hits hard.
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Post by thehightenor on Mar 15, 2024 2:59:09 GMT -6
Sony / Sonnox Oxford Transmod tbh. Not envolution. Transmod gets transients from nothing. It works. It hits hard. I’ve used the Sonnox for ages - it really is very good. I like to soften snares with it sometimes. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 15, 2024 7:10:54 GMT -6
Sony / Sonnox Oxford Transmod tbh. Not envolution. Transmod gets transients from nothing. It works. It hits hard. I’ve used the Sonnox for ages - it really is very good. I like to soften snares with it sometimes. yeah I was really surprised the later Envolution wasn’t nearly as good and how much better the Transmod was than the Transient Designer (and everything that copied it on) on tough recordings. The SPL hardware is more subtle though (the software sucks) but the Transmod will do more and let you saturate off the overshoots at the expense of being a little bit more difficult to grasp. This is cool too especially if you use the first order crossovers: lhiaudio.com/st4b/ |
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Post by drumsound on Mar 15, 2024 12:16:22 GMT -6
I downloaded the free Wavesfactory Flash transient shaper and have used it on a few things lately. I demoed the SPL plugin years back and didn't really get it to do much, but the Flash does what I expect.
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Post by ericn on Mar 15, 2024 13:05:50 GMT -6
The Transient Designer is more immediately gratifying. You can make a room mic sound larger or tighter or make a snare drum sound like it has a towel on it very easily. Seems like Transient Designer is more for me… Now the question is original vs 500. You want the 4 ch, simply because if you buy 1 500 series your goi g to buy at least 3 more!😁 |
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Post by EmRR on Mar 16, 2024 21:24:44 GMT -6
Stillwell Transient Monster
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