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Post by Johnkenn on May 4, 2019 21:38:24 GMT -6
I’ve been on kind of a bass kick lately trying to get better bass sounds (when I am hacking it). I just have a Squire Classic Vibe P Bass...but it’s apparently kind of a sought after one. It’s the fiesta red one that looks like Pino’s. Anyway, changed the pickups - went through Quarter Pounders, but eventually ended up with the Fender 62 P Bass pickups which sound great. Then got a threaded bridge...all sounded really good. It then I picked up the RNDI and wow. There’s the punch and definition...no farting in the bottom end. I do think it’s a sum of all the improvements, but damn, didn’t know the DI through another pre would be that big a step up.
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Post by tasteliketape on May 4, 2019 23:22:46 GMT -6
A bass player friend called me and had just bought his RNDI . He’s has some really top of the line basses and gear , but swears by the RNDI over quitt a few premium DI’s he owns .
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Post by 79sg on May 5, 2019 5:33:26 GMT -6
It's an excellent DI. Have you used your Kemper for bass?
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Post by Bat Lanyard on May 5, 2019 7:30:22 GMT -6
Another vote for it, especially for keyboards. Super full tones.
ZOD DI is my goto for bass though.
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Post by nudwig on May 5, 2019 18:08:17 GMT -6
I've been wanting to try one of these as it'd be much easier to travel with compared to the ZOD. But then I use the ZOD and don't mind lugging it around at all. Probably still try one soon.
On another note glad to hear your bass issues are resolved John. I love those 62 pickups.
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Post by kilroyrock on May 6, 2019 9:59:35 GMT -6
Rndi vs your new 1073eq DI, or rndi into microphone on 1073eq?
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Post by Johnkenn on May 6, 2019 10:17:30 GMT -6
Rndi vs your new 1073eq DI, or rndi into microphone on 1073eq? Used the VP28 Platinum - haven't tried the 1073 yet. Need to do a comprehensive comparison to the DI in the Platinum, but I think a dedicated DI is going to trump built in DI's most of the time since that's not the primary goal of the pre.
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 6, 2019 17:38:48 GMT -6
I’ve done quite a bit of back and forth with dedicated vs built in DI’s. I’ve bounced between countryman, active and passive Radial units, tube based Demeters, and I always wind up plugging right into the front of a Hairball Lola and it’s the best thing ever for me on bass.
I bet he DI on those platinums sound mighty good John!
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Post by Johnkenn on May 6, 2019 18:15:27 GMT -6
They definitely do. It’s what I’ve been using. In fact, I think they sound better than a lot of other pre/DI’s.
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Post by drbill on May 6, 2019 22:20:38 GMT -6
Rndi vs your new 1073eq DI, or rndi into microphone on 1073eq? Used the VP28 Platinum - haven't tried the 1073 yet. Need to do a comprehensive comparison to the DI in the Platinum, but I think a dedicated DI is going to trump built in DI's most of the time since that's not the primary goal of the pre. One of my all time favorite DI's are the ones in the API 512B's. I've had so much success with those, and everyone that's plugged into them (bass, guitars, keys) loves them. These days I'm mostly on the Zod's though. Got two of them, so stereo is a breeze. Still use the API's if I want an aggressive, muscular bass track that will CUT!
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Post by nudwig on May 7, 2019 13:59:48 GMT -6
Have you guys used the RNDI's speaker input? The direct out on my Ampeg SVT3 kinda sucks, or something is wrong with it, would be cool to send the post amp sound.
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Post by kilroyrock on May 8, 2019 7:28:46 GMT -6
Have you guys used the RNDI's speaker input? The direct out on my Ampeg SVT3 kinda sucks, or something is wrong with it, would be cool to send the post amp sound. I've used it with a solid state Orange Crush 10 watt that has a crappy little speaker. It was amazingly useful. Turned a little Orange crush 10 watt into a head/speaker cab, plugged that "head" directly into the RNDI, then recorded the output, and used the Eleven plugin's Speaker emulation (insert your own favorite one here), and came out with some damn fine guitar tracks. I haven't used it with a bass amp though, I'd certainly make sure we're not throwing tube amps in there without a power soak, from my research.
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Post by nudwig on May 8, 2019 12:01:01 GMT -6
I've used it with a solid state Orange Crush 10 watt that has a crappy little speaker. It was amazingly useful. Turned a little Orange crush 10 watt into a head/speaker cab, plugged that "head" directly into the RNDI, then recorded the output, and used the Eleven plugin's Speaker emulation (insert your own favorite one here), and came out with some damn fine guitar tracks. I haven't used it with a bass amp though, I'd certainly make sure we're not throwing tube amps in there without a power soak, from my research. Thanks for the info, I'll do some research. The idea was to use it between the had and cab. Not the worst thing to use it before the amp but if I could use it in between that'd be awesome.
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Post by kilroyrock on May 8, 2019 12:54:53 GMT -6
I've used it with a solid state Orange Crush 10 watt that has a crappy little speaker. It was amazingly useful. Turned a little Orange crush 10 watt into a head/speaker cab, plugged that "head" directly into the RNDI, then recorded the output, and used the Eleven plugin's Speaker emulation (insert your own favorite one here), and came out with some damn fine guitar tracks. I haven't used it with a bass amp though, I'd certainly make sure we're not throwing tube amps in there without a power soak, from my research. Thanks for the info, I'll do some research. The idea was to use it between the had and cab. Not the worst thing to use it before the amp but if I could use it in between that'd be awesome. So I looked back to my info and the "power soak" option is for if you don't want to plug in a cab for apartment recording, the speaker energy needs to go somewhere. If you're plugging into your cabinet, after, then you're good to go.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 11, 2019 20:45:50 GMT -6
Well, well. Scott at Pueblo Audio saw this thread and offered to send me one of his OLLA DI's to compare. (Pretty swag move I must say) Anyway, wow...it's objectively better. Tighter, punchier and strangely while I feel like I hear the entire frequency range, I don't hear as much string noise with this DI. Maybe I'm crazy. Anyway...I do still think the RND sounds great - but now I've kind of been ruined. It's about twice the price, so I've got to decide whether I can swing it.
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Post by Tbone81 on May 11, 2019 20:53:01 GMT -6
How do they both compare to the Zod DI?
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Post by Johnkenn on May 11, 2019 21:07:13 GMT -6
How do they both compare to the Zod DI? No idea
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Post by adamjbrass on May 12, 2019 14:07:02 GMT -6
The OLLA is pretty incredible. It has ultra low noise and no distortion
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Post by jamiesego on May 16, 2019 17:36:37 GMT -6
Well, well. Scott at Pueblo Audio saw this thread and offered to send me one of his OLLA DI's to compare. (Pretty swag move I must say) Anyway, wow...it's objectively better. Tighter, punchier and strangely while I feel like I hear the entire frequency range, I don't hear as much string noise with this DI. Maybe I'm crazy. Anyway...I do still think the RND sounds great - but now I've kind of been ruined. It's about twice the price, so I've got to decide whether I can swing it. We need clips! I really love my RNDI but I still find myself curious about REDDI's, and ZOD's, and Motown DI's, and now this.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2019 17:58:55 GMT -6
Uh. Not sure you want to hear me playing bass lol. Maybe I’ll try
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Post by tasteliketape on May 16, 2019 18:31:00 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 0:10:25 GMT -6
I always hated the sound of my Chandler TG2 as a bass DI, seemed like it "loaded down the pickups" too much or something. Sounded very different from the amp, e.g. when you adjust the tone control on the bass into the amp, you can very clearly hear the roll off happening. Into the DI, not so much, everything just sounded a bit muddy and indistinct when solo playing/practise. That was until I actually started using it for recording bass parts for tracks recently, OMG! Yes, sounds very boring on its own and is quite dark BUT that thing just sits in the mix so well! With careful playing I don't need to use any compression (just adjust a couple of individual note volumes in REAPER maybe) or EQ. Cranking the input gain and rolling off the output level is another way to get a bit more dirt and tonal variation. Always loved the TG2 as a DI for electronic instruments, but always hated it on bass, until now.
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Post by Guitar on May 17, 2019 5:33:59 GMT -6
I started searching out old Triad transformers, and I've built a few of these Wolfobx "Motown DI" boxes, they are pretty great. It's a fun project, too.
There is something very satisfying about using vintage audio equipment, I mean things from the 50s and 60s. It excites the imagination.
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Post by hadaja on May 17, 2019 5:38:51 GMT -6
I thought after reading this thread i was missing out by not having the neve di box so i bought one. Turns out i was not missing out. There is no night and day difference between rndi vs radial jdi vs whatever other di i own. Sure a little different sound in slight more clear highs very solid low end but my other di's do that as well but slightly different flavour . Tried this through my bass guitar not any other instruements yet. Probably will keep the rndi seeing how i bought it new.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 17, 2019 6:44:37 GMT -6
Guess it depends on what your definition of night and day is.
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