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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 10, 2019 18:42:13 GMT -6
Anybody tried it: thoughts ? I know I am in the minority here:?mostly working on headphones!
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Post by wiz on Jul 10, 2019 18:57:58 GMT -6
wish there was a can't post derogatory posts without listening first button
8)
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 10, 2019 19:23:07 GMT -6
Nothing wrong with critiques, most people being critical at ua forum haven’t demode it either !
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Post by wiz on Jul 10, 2019 19:37:42 GMT -6
Nothing wrong with critiques, most people being critical at ua forum haven’t demode it either ! It always spins me out, when people diss audio stuff, without hearing it... Cheers Wiz
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Post by LesC on Jul 10, 2019 22:00:44 GMT -6
I think it's the worst sounding plugin that I've ever not heard!
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 10, 2019 23:46:49 GMT -6
Abbey Road is the USP now is CLA not in business anymore?...
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Post by Quint on Jul 10, 2019 23:59:18 GMT -6
So, yes, this is bullshit? Yes?
Do any of us really need to "hear" it to know that it's bullshit?
Maybe it's not. But it probably is.
Even if it is sort of along the lines of what it is purported to do...
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 11, 2019 0:40:02 GMT -6
Does anybody actually know what it's supposed to do?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 11, 2019 5:53:52 GMT -6
Well according to the demo, it would be as if you are now monitoring in ARS3, through,any of its 3 systems: Near: atc25 (?) on console ? Mid:, b&w (?) large floor standing and Far: Quested multi speaker wall mounted. It also allows for various surround sound modes. The actual room sampling (sweet spot) is also of the current ARS3 design after its last major complete redesign and build. and Giles Martin serves you virtual earl grey tea and dollies you can v steal for your drum sessions (honest)
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Post by lando on Jul 11, 2019 7:41:54 GMT -6
Conceptually it sounds beyond stupid to me. But maybe there is something I don’t understand and the listening environment can actually be improved by faking another control room?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 11, 2019 8:41:24 GMT -6
As this is intended to be used with headphones, in theory, it replace’s your listening environment for monitoring with ARS3’s.
The premise being, this is far better than most people’s ?
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Post by javamad on Jul 11, 2019 8:45:09 GMT -6
I can understand that for people on headphones its a help to be able to add the spill over effect from a room... it helps them to do panning etc.
But trying to imitate a specific room you are not actually in, and most likely have never been in, does not make much sense to me.
With Sonarworks you are going for flat, but still headphones. With some other crossfeed plugins you get crossfeed .. with this product they will be adding reflections? So messing up the phase intentionally just to say “Abbey Road”? I am skeptical to say the least.
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Post by sirthought on Jul 11, 2019 13:59:29 GMT -6
Waves Nx was alway a product that seems to me like a cross between Sonarworks and Can Opener. For the people who are looking to mix on headphones because their room isn't well treated, that combination has seemed like a respectable solution. But some folks don't even like the idea of that, or really ever mixing on headphones as their main avenue. To each their own.
Nx added the surround functionality, which was weird in many ways. Lots of software 'magic.' ARS3 is just uping that product with emulations to offer different sounding speakers. It's crazy to think that any of it would be believable. Yet many of us believe other plugins sound damn close to real life counterparts.
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 13, 2019 2:46:01 GMT -6
Does anybody actually know what it's supposed to do? There is a free App for the I Phone with thier NX Technologie. IMO the music sounds nothing like with monitors. For my taste it makes the sound under cans worse.
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Post by LesC on Jul 13, 2019 10:14:36 GMT -6
The first thing I thought of when I read about this plugin is that it's a natural successor to plugins like the UAD Ocean Ways Studio. With OWS the idea is to imprint the sound of a good tracking room onto the sound of a crappy tracking room. ABS tries to imprint the sound of a good mixing room onto the sound of a crappy mixing room. I haven't heard it so can't comment on it's merits.
The second thing I thought of when I read about this plugin is, if I get a picture of the face of a young George Clooney tattoed on my face, can I expect to be on the cover of People Magazine's "Sexiest Man Alive" issue?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 13, 2019 11:58:40 GMT -6
Matt the mod at ua forum posted 3 mixes: ruff session mix, refined and last with ARS3.
Interesting!
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 13, 2019 12:29:30 GMT -6
Matt the mod at ua forum posted 3 mixes: ruff session mix, refined and last with ARS3. Interesting! ARS3? Is that a hacker way of spelling....... well, you know.........
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 13, 2019 12:59:33 GMT -6
Who can be bothered to type all that out !
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 14, 2019 20:22:21 GMT -6
Well according to the demo, it would be as if you are now monitoring in ARS3, through,any of its 3 systems: Near: atc25 (?) on console ? Mid:, b&w (?) large floor standing and Far: Quested multi speaker wall mounted. It also allows for various surround sound modes. The actual room sampling (sweet spot) is also of the current ARS3 design after its last major complete redesign and build. and Giles Martin serves you virtual earl grey tea and dollies you can v steal for your drum sessions (honest) Which is total bullshytte, since the ear does not perceive sound the same on phones as in free air. This isn't even slightly controversial. And Gilles Martin can go back to fetching tea. After that Sgt Pepper abortion I don't understand why he has any credibility left at all.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 15, 2019 5:00:13 GMT -6
Maybe, interestingly two guys at ua forum with good ears, experience and gear have denied it and both found it revealed quite specific frequency problems in their mixes they hadn’t heard before.
So,perhaps it has utility has a mix checker even if you don’t want to use it for all mixing ?
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