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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 4, 2019 16:42:26 GMT -6
Greetings.
As mentioned in another thread re: snake management, I am moving into a new studio. <cue cheering crowd sound effect> The live room in the new place used to be the living room in a house. An unusual shape; not just a parallel-walled box. Walls are the usual painted sheetrock. I plan to cover them in something. I'm not referring to acoustic treatments like GIKs or RealTraps; not just yet. This phase comes before the GIKs or similar.
I want something to bring some atmosphere, visual interest, a catalyst to foster creativity, something vibey; that kind of thing. So far, I'm thinking something like reclaimed barnwood, reclaimed antique slate shingles; something in that realm. Perhaps both; maybe slate shingles on one or two walls; barnwood on the others. Or maybe one wall in clapboard siding; either painted or rough/unfinished. Once that phase is complete, then I can think about actual acoustic treatment vis a vis GIKs, etc....
So this phase is less about what to do for sound, as that can/will be addressed with acoustic treatments after this phase.
Has anyone else had this kind of thing wherein you're doing something visual for the wallls?. If so, what did you do? Again, my request is more about visuals and environment than what will sound best, as I can deal with that using GIKs if need be. Although a long wall of antique slate shingles would bring some diffusion and a great look as well.
Suggestions? Thoughts? Experiences? Anecdotes? Knock-knock jokes?
Again, many thanks in advance.
Regards, -09
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Post by mulmany on Jul 4, 2019 17:05:47 GMT -6
I personally would frame a secondary wall in front of the drywall, fill with your acoustics then barn wood over that. Leave gaps in the planks. You could also do brick for texture.
Lots of ways to go about it. But I would definitely consult a pro before committing to a big design change.
At least anything will be better then drywall!
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 4, 2019 17:09:24 GMT -6
I personally would frame a secondary wall in front of the drywall, fill with your acoustics then barn wood over that. Leave gaps in the planks. You could also do brick for texture. Lots of ways to go about it. But I would definitely consult a pro before committing to a big design change. At least anything will be better then drywall! Thanks, Patrick; great idea!
-09
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Post by Tbone81 on Jul 4, 2019 17:12:15 GMT -6
Any wood paneling would look cool imho (shiplap, shingles, barnwood etc), especially if its stained or oiled nicely. Stone can also look great. What are the floors like? How high are the ceilings?
As much as this is a visual thing, I don't think you can separate the acoustic implications of what you want to do. Luckily wood paneled walls shouldn't do anything worse, acoustically, than the bare drywall, and very likely will sound better. Also, from experience I'd recommend really spending the time to work out a master plan on how the room will look, how it will sound, and where all the furniture/instruments etc will be setup. I've learned the hard way that when you do things in "phases" and work it out as you go, you always end up regretting something...at least I do.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 4, 2019 17:18:40 GMT -6
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 5, 2019 16:21:18 GMT -6
Any wood paneling would look cool imho (shiplap, shingles, barnwood etc), especially if its stained or oiled nicely. Stone can also look great. What are the floors like? How high are the ceilings? As much as this is a visual thing, I don't think you can separate the acoustic implications of what you want to do. Luckily wood paneled walls shouldn't do anything worse, acoustically, than the bare drywall, and very likely will sound better. Also, from experience I'd recommend really spending the time to work out a master plan on how the room will look, how it will sound, and where all the furniture/instruments etc will be setup. I've learned the hard way that when you do things in "phases" and work it out as you go, you always end up regretting something...at least I do. Thanks, Tbone. This will be the 2nd studio I've built. Well, this one is actually "built," I just have to do some treatments to it. For my first one, I did a mix of India slate and shiplap barnwood (new; not reclaimed; I purchased it right from the sawmill). Flooring was carpet. It was a fine sounding space; many records were recorded there. Since I know how that blend of stone and barnwood works and how well I liked it, I want to do something similar with the new one. Yet I want it to look and feel a bit different from the old one; hence the thought of reclaimed barnwood instead of new, and antique Vermont slate shingles instead of new India slate. To answer your Q: flooring in the place is all oak. I have some heavy, thick Oriental rugs I'll be using.
Thanks again, -09
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 5, 2019 16:21:50 GMT -6
Thanks, Blackdawg! Interesting idea for sure.
-09
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 5, 2019 17:02:06 GMT -6
Thanks, Blackdawg! Interesting idea for sure.
-09
There's a bunch if cool easy ways to make diy wood diffusion panels that I think would be cool. Even if you checkerboarded the walls with then and something else. |
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Post by svart on Jul 8, 2019 9:13:10 GMT -6
I bought some specialty cardboard wall panels. This is an old picture, as it's no longer orange, I have twice as many guitars, and there is a lot more sound control along the back wall, but you'll get the picture..  |
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Post by Ward on Jul 8, 2019 17:15:27 GMT -6
Well, svart, doesn't look the den of an evil mad scientist to me. #disappointed |
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Post by WKG on Jul 9, 2019 15:30:09 GMT -6
Home Depot has a line called threeDwall. Different sculpted panels mad out of plant fiber. I haven't used it but I thought it would be cool to do some accents with it. It's paintable also. Home Depot threeDwall |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 9, 2019 15:55:38 GMT -6
I kinda like the orange Svart. I'd like to see the new color.
WKG, I wonder how well those panels work when compared to a wooden panel with different size blocks. They seem pretty cool and an easy solution for some diffusion.
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Post by Ward on Jul 9, 2019 17:08:17 GMT -6
Home Depot has a line called threeDwall. Different sculpted panels mad out of plant fiber. I haven't used it but I thought it would be cool to do some accents with it. It's paintable also. Home Depot threeDwallThat looks cool but I don't think it's going to a whole lot for sound diffusion |
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Post by WKG on Jul 9, 2019 17:11:02 GMT -6
I kinda like the orange Svart. I'd like to see the new color. WKG, I wonder how well those panels work when compared to a wooden panel with different size blocks. They seem pretty cool and an easy solution for some diffusion. They are made out of plant fiber so I would think they are pretty similar to dense cardboard, they might help with a little diffusion after they are painted. When we moved my new space was a little smaller than the last and I had plenty of treatment/diffusors already. If I would have had more space I probably would have used some of these at least for décor, I think some of them could look good if used wisely. |
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Post by WKG on Jul 9, 2019 17:13:28 GMT -6
Home Depot has a line called threeDwall. Different sculpted panels mad out of plant fiber. I haven't used it but I thought it would be cool to do some accents with it. It's paintable also. Home Depot threeDwallThat looks cool but I don't think it's going to a whole lot for sound diffusion I agree. They are designed for aesthetic purposes. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 9, 2019 20:31:00 GMT -6
I bet if you used the home Depot stuff interspersed with some real treatment and painted right it would be cool.
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Post by javamad on Jul 10, 2019 4:41:52 GMT -6
I did a full wall with reclaimed oak panelling. I just overlapped them a bit and screwed them to the wall. It sits behind the drums. With some spots projecting down over it the visuals are great.
I have had to install a heavy stage curtain though, which I can quickly pull across, because while it projects a nice lively sound along the room to any room mics when recording drums, its just too live for other sessions.
I would definitely consider building in reversible, movable elements into your design.
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Post by svart on Jul 10, 2019 7:44:54 GMT -6
I kinda like the orange Svart. I'd like to see the new color. WKG, I wonder how well those panels work when compared to a wooden panel with different size blocks. They seem pretty cool and an easy solution for some diffusion.  Here's a quick shot. It's just a slightly off white. I don't think they do anything for audio. They were just cool looking to add something different. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 10, 2019 10:40:27 GMT -6
That color works nicely too! It would be fun to see a graph with and without the wall feature, just to see if there's any change.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jul 10, 2019 11:24:35 GMT -6
Greetings.
As mentioned in another thread re: snake management, I am moving into a new studio. <cue cheering crowd sound effect> The live room in the new place used to be the living room in a house. An unusual shape; not just a parallel-walled box. Walls are the usual painted sheetrock. I plan to cover them in something. I'm not referring to acoustic treatments like GIKs or RealTraps; not just yet. This phase comes before the GIKs or similar.
I want something to bring some atmosphere, visual interest, a catalyst to foster creativity, something vibey; that kind of thing. So far, I'm thinking something like reclaimed barnwood, reclaimed antique slate shingles; something in that realm. Perhaps both; maybe slate shingles on one or two walls; barnwood on the others. Or maybe one wall in clapboard siding; either painted or rough/unfinished. Once that phase is complete, then I can think about actual acoustic treatment vis a vis GIKs, etc....
So this phase is less about what to do for sound, as that can/will be addressed with acoustic treatments after this phase.
Has anyone else had this kind of thing wherein you're doing something visual for the wallls?. If so, what did you do? Again, my request is more about visuals and environment than what will sound best, as I can deal with that using GIKs if need be. Although a long wall of antique slate shingles would bring some diffusion and a great look as well.
Suggestions? Thoughts? Experiences? Anecdotes? Knock-knock jokes?
Again, many thanks in advance.
Regards, -09
My room is inside a larger room as well. I went for sound first but I did do some things simply for aesthetics, like slope in the sides of my front wall about five degrees for dramatic effect and put in some variations on the back wall for visual effect (although they do play a part in the acoustics). Been in here since around 2015 and to this day I find it endlessly inspiring. The slats are sheets of 4x8 birch plywood that I ripped on my tablesaw which allowed me to cover a lot of area for less money.   |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 10, 2019 16:14:10 GMT -6
I'm diggin' the sloped slats Bat. Do you mean that you made the grooves yourself with a table saw?
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jul 10, 2019 21:39:42 GMT -6
I'm diggin' the sloped slats Bat. Do you mean that you made the grooves yourself with a table saw? Much appreciated, MJB, thanks. Yes, the slats I cut from full sheets of birch on my table saw. I built the room myself from the ground up. Family history of building, remodeling and such that came in super handy when it was time to make my space. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 11, 2019 8:44:01 GMT -6
That really looked professional, well done sir!
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jul 11, 2019 10:37:17 GMT -6
That really looked professional, well done sir! Appreciate that, man, thanks! |
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Post by javamad on Jul 12, 2019 2:03:37 GMT -6
Greetings.
As mentioned in another thread re: snake management, I am moving into a new studio. <cue cheering crowd sound effect> The live room in the new place used to be the living room in a house. An unusual shape; not just a parallel-walled box. Walls are the usual painted sheetrock. I plan to cover them in something. I'm not referring to acoustic treatments like GIKs or RealTraps; not just yet. This phase comes before the GIKs or similar.
I want something to bring some atmosphere, visual interest, a catalyst to foster creativity, something vibey; that kind of thing. So far, I'm thinking something like reclaimed barnwood, reclaimed antique slate shingles; something in that realm. Perhaps both; maybe slate shingles on one or two walls; barnwood on the others. Or maybe one wall in clapboard siding; either painted or rough/unfinished. Once that phase is complete, then I can think about actual acoustic treatment vis a vis GIKs, etc....
So this phase is less about what to do for sound, as that can/will be addressed with acoustic treatments after this phase.
Has anyone else had this kind of thing wherein you're doing something visual for the wallls?. If so, what did you do? Again, my request is more about visuals and environment than what will sound best, as I can deal with that using GIKs if need be. Although a long wall of antique slate shingles would bring some diffusion and a great look as well.
Suggestions? Thoughts? Experiences? Anecdotes? Knock-knock jokes?
Again, many thanks in advance.
Regards, -09
My room is inside a larger room as well. I went for sound first but I did do some things simply for aesthetics, like slope in the sides of my front wall about five degrees for dramatic effect and put in some variations on the back wall for visual effect (although they do play a part in the acoustics). Been in here since around 2015 and to this day I find it endlessly inspiring. The slats are sheets of 4x8 birch plywood that I ripped on my tablesaw which allowed me to cover a lot of area for less money. View Attachment View AttachmentVery nice work indeed. That was a super table saw and some serious skills to get the cuts so straight. The fixing work aint bad either :-) It looks fabulous. |
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